Lets have a look at the two drugs they are currently prescribing for Fibromyalgia, Cymbalta and Lyrica. I found this from the Patients like me website.
Cymbalta side effects as an overall problem of 754 people, 511 experienced side effect, 119 being severe. Of the 481 side effects reported, the most common were libido decreased, sweating increased, nausea, dizziness, brain cloud and insomnia, most being moderate to severe.
Lyrica side effects as an overall problem of 604 people, 484 experienced side effects, 151 of them being severe. Of the 610 side effects reported, the most common were weight gain, brain fog, daytime sleepiness, dizziness, lack of concentration and blurry vision.
Interesting enough, after 18 years of the drugs they have given me, since giving them up, the brain fog or cloud has disappeared, the weight gain has stopped and I have returned to my normal weight, I don’t experience the dizziness anymore or the nausea (except from certain foods), my concentration is better and I sleep better now.
It has taken a very strict program of chiropractic care/stretching/exercise/diet changes/herbals/vitamins/giving up certain things/adding certain things plus many more hints and tips, an overall combination of events that is finally helping me. I am by all means not cured but I am far better off than a year ago and I can see things a lot more clearly now. Understanding your body and what is going on with it is half the battle instead of drowning it with chemical drugs in hope for a cure. Not one of the many, many drugs I was on cured anything, only complicated things for me and I could see the drugs were going to be detrimental to me in the long term.
My questions are:
Why are we okay with drugs that give a majority of users side effects that are mild to severe, yet don’t really help?
How can all these drugs be good for our organs in the long term?
How can they drug this illness when they don’t even know what it is?
How do they know they aren’t making it worse?
Some of us can’t take the drugs anymore, what about us? Are there any other Fibromyalgia sufferers in the same boat? Please share you comments.
Side effect as an overall problem
Most commonly reported side effects
Sex drive (libido) decreased 97
Sweating increased 90
Side effects as an overall problem
Most commonly reported side effects
Weight gain 164
Brain fog 102
Daytime sleepiness 95
Lack of Concentration 81
Blurry vision 76
What I find interesting about Codeine is how we use this drug so freely, yet it is:
– dangerously addictive
– causes numerous side effects
– can cause erectile dysfunction and diminished libido which can be a longer-term effect (years to decades). Even worse, they make a pill called Viagra to make up for that erectile dysfunction which in turn, we know can add to even more problems!
I listed what sources you could be getting codeine from, the possible side effect and withdrawals. Have a good look, there may be a source you weren’t aware of.
Do we ever suspect that the drugs we are taking could be causing the symptoms in the first place? Not usually, especially over-the-counter drugs. They can’t be harmful, you can buy them off the shelf, right? We throw them in the cart like they are part of our groceries nowadays. Part of our weekly chemical intoxicants.
Even worse, we mix them with alcohol, prescription drugs, street drugs or even certain foods that have a chemical reaction. If you seriously think about it, most of our foods are chemical cocktails. Quite a mix going on there, a chemical war for. It only leads to more pain and suffering in the long run, believe me, especially if you end up with kidney or liver failure or something serious. Think twice before you start mixing prescriptions and over-the counter drugs. Take care of yourself.
The true dangers are overuse as it has become so wide spread in so many products. It is:
– marketed as both a single-ingredient drug
– in combination preparations with the analgesic acetaminophen (paracetamol, as co-codamol paracod, panadeine, or the Tylenol With Codeine series (e.g., Tylenol 3 and 4 tablets and elixir)
– with the analgesic acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin), as co-codaprin
– with the NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) ibuprofen, as Nurofen Plus. These combinations provide greater pain relief than either agent alone (drug synergy). Commonly marketed in products containing:
– codeine with other pain killers – muscle relaxers such as Fioricet with Codeine, Soma Compound/Codeine – codeine mixed with phenacetin (Emprazil With Codeine No. 1, 2, 3, and 4), naproxen, indomethacin, diclofenac and others – more complex mixtures including such mixtures as aspirin + paracetamol + codeine ± caffeine ± antihistamines and other agents such as mentioned above – Codeine-only products can be obtained with a prescription as a time release tablet (e.g., Codeine Contin 100 mg and Perduretas 50 mg)
– also marketed in cough syrups with zero to a half-dozen other active ingredients
– a linctus (e.g., Paveral) for all of the uses for which codeine is indicated.
– injectable codeine is available for subcutaneous or intramuscular injection; intravenous injection can cause a serious reaction that can progress to anaphylaxis (you don’t want to go there, the anaphylaxis is life threatening and a horrible roller coaster from hell you can’t get off. I experienced that from a 3 month injection of Lupron)
– Codeine suppositories are also marketed in some countries
Are you starting to see how you could overdose so easily? These are the silent killers. So easy to consume, but with such serious consequences. You may not see your liver or kidneys being destroyed from mixing, but eventually you may feel some effects like erectile dysfunction or rashes or intestinal pain.
Rather than linking the symptoms to the use or overuse of the codeine or drugs, we are off to get diagnosed for this strange skin rash or a prescription for Viagra. Many of these symptoms could disappear without the addition of new drugs but rather the mere elimination of certain chemicals or food.
Sure, you have pain but getting to the root cause of your pain is the best answer. Long term pain killer use can cause serious damage to humans.
Common effects other than analgesia associated with the use of codeine include:
– dry mouth
– orthostatic hypotension
– urinary retention
– lack of sexual drive
– increased complications in erectile dysfunction
– some people may also have an allergic reaction to codeine, such as the swelling of skin and rashes
– erectile dysfunction and diminished libido can be a longer-term effect (years to decades) of many narcotic analgesics due to development of central hypogonadism; this appears to be an especially common effect of methadone.
– the hypoglycaemic effect of codeine, although usually weaker than that of morphine, diamorphine, or hydromorphone, can lead to cravings for sugar.
Tolerance to many of the effects of codeine develops with prolonged use, including therapeutic effects. The rate at which this occurs develops at different rates for different effects, with tolerance to the constipation-inducing effects developing particularly slowly for instance.
A potentially serious adverse drug reaction, as with other opioids, is respiratory depression. This depression is dose-related and is the mechanism for the potentially fatal consequences of overdose.
– as codeine is metabolized to morphine, morphine can be passed through breast milk in potentially lethal amounts, fatally depressing the respiration of a breastfed baby.
As with other opiate-based pain killers, chronic use of codeine can cause physical dependence. When physical dependence has developed, withdrawal symptoms may occur if a person suddenly stops the medication. Withdrawal symptoms include
– drug craving
– runny nose
– stomach cramps
– muscle spasms
To minimize withdrawal symptoms, long-term users should gradually reduce their codeine medication under the supervision of a healthcare professional. A support group called Codeine Free exists to help people who have found themselves dependent on codeine.
Generic Name: codeine (KOE deen)
– codeine may be habit-forming
– do not drink alcohol. Dangerous side effects or death can occur when alcohol is combined with a narcotic pain medicine.
– never take codeine in larger amounts, or for longer than recommended by your doctor – follow the directions on your prescription label
– tell your doctor if the medicine seems to stop working as well in relieving your pain. (This is really important, sometimes we stay on a medication for years, seriously consider if it is really working for you. Why risk possible organ damage and premature death for something that isn’t even helping?)
– codeine may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be alert
– do not stop using codeine suddenly, or you could have unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Ask your doctor how to avoid withdrawal symptoms when you stop using codeine.
Do not use codeine if you have ever had an allergic reaction to a narcotic medicine (examples include:
FDA pregnancy category C. It is not known whether codeine will harm an unborn baby. Codeine may cause addiction or withdrawal symptoms in a newborn if the mother takes this medicine during pregnancy. Codeine can pass into breast milk and may harm a nursing baby. The use of codeine by some nursing mothers may lead to life-threatening side effects in the baby. Do not use codeine without telling your doctor if you are breast-feeding a baby.
By Sharon Kirkey, Postmedia News
– can be lethally toxic even in normal doses
– Canada’s leading medical journal says it’s time to seriously consider phasing out the popular painkille
– The Canadian Medical Association Journal says codeine — a drug that has been in use since the 1800s —has never been subjected to the safety testing now mandatory for modern day drugs, and that a person’s genetic makeup can leave them vulnerable to life-threatening or fatal reactions.
– recent advances in our understanding of pharmacogenetics raise serious concerns about the safety of codeine, including emerging evidence that the narcotic can cause death even at conventional doses.”
– the liver converts codeine to morphine. But some people are ultrarapid metabolizers, meaning their bodies break codeine down far faster than most, leading to a toxic accumulation of morphine that can be deadly.
“We now have more cases in Canada,” said Dr. Gideon Koren, director of the Motherisk program at Sick Kids and a professor at the University of Toronto.
” Koren has also started a study involving children who are sent home with codeine after a tonsillectomy with an apnea monitor. “The study’s ongoing but I can tell you quite a few of them show episodes of apnea — they stop breathing.
So this is serious,” Koren says. Currently, there are 124 approved and marketed products containing codeine in Canada, including over the counter cough and cold medicines, analgesics and back pain medications.
Drug products containing more than 8 mg of codeine are available with a prescription. Tylenol 3 — Tylenol with codeine — is among the top 20 prescribed drugs in Canada.
In a statement, Janssen-Ortho Inc., makers of Tylenol, said the company “remains confident that its products are safe and effective for consumers. We don’t believe it is appropriate for us to comment on the CMAJ editorial.”
Last year, nearly 2.5 million prescriptions worth $37.3 million were filled by retail drugstores, according to prescription drug tracking firm IMS Health Canada. Until more research is done into codeine’s safety, physicians should be warned of the potential for harm, the CMAJ says. “We really think there needs to be some serious look at ensuring that physicians are warned about toxicity — and the general public is warned about toxicity,” MacDonald said. Read the full article at: http://www.canada.com/health/Medical+journal+raises+concerns+about+codeine/3621069/story.html
– diarrhea and upset stomach
– stomach pain
**Rarely, diarrhea can become so severe and persistent that it may lead to dehydration
– severe/persistent diarrhea
– stomach cramps
– severe dizziness
– decreased amount of urine
– muscle weakness
****Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur:
– difficult/painful swallowing
– swelling of the hands/feet
– sudden/unexplained weight gain
– vision changes
– hearing changes (e.g., ringing in the ears)
– mental/mood changes (e.g., depression)
– fast/pounding heartbeat
– persistent/severe headache
– unusual/heavy vaginal bleeding
– menstrual problems/irregular periods
****Tell your doctor immediately if any of these rare but very serious side effects occur:
– change in the amount of urine
– easy bruising/bleeding
– signs of infection (e.g., fever, persistent sore throat)
– unexplained stiff neck
******This drug may rarely cause serious (possibly fatal) liver disease. If you notice any of the following rare but very serious side effects, stop taking diclofenac/misoprostol and tell your doctor immediately:
– yellowing eyes/skin
– dark urine
– unusual/extreme tiredness
– severe stomach/abdominal pain
– persistent nausea/vomiting
******A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is unlikely, but seek immediate medical attention if it occurs. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include:
– itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat)
– severe dizziness
– trouble breathing
**This is not a complete list of possible side effects. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist.
In Canada – Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to Health Canada at 1-866-234-2345.
In the US -Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088.
PRECAUTIONS: if you are allergic to either of these drugs;
– aspirin or other NSAIDs – ibuprofen, naproxen, celecoxib
– aspirin-sensitive asthma
– recent heart bypass surgery
– certain liver problem
– kidney disease
– liver disease
– stomach/intestine/esophagus problems – bleeding, ulcers, inflammatory bowel disease
– heart disease
– high blood pressure, stroke, swelling, edema, fluid retention
– blood disorders – anemia)
– bleeding or clotting problems
– growths in the nose (nasal polyps)
**Before having surgery, tell your doctor or dentist that you are using this medication. This drug may make you dizzy or drowsy. Do not drive, use machinery, or do any activity that requires alertness until you are sure you can perform such activities safely.
*Diclofenac may cause:
– stomach bleeding. Daily use of alcohol and tobacco may increase your risk for stomach bleeding
– may make you more sensitive to the sun. Avoid prolonged sun exposure, tanning booths, and sunlamps
– elderly may be more sensitive to the side effects of this drug, especially stomach/intestinal bleeding and kidney effects.
– must not be used during pregnancy. It can harm the unborn baby and mother
*******DRUG INTERACTIONS: This drug should not be used with the following medications because very serious interactions may occur:
– high doses of aspirin and related drugs – salicylates
– cidofovir, other NSAIDs – ketorolac
If you are currently using any of these medications listed above, tell your doctor or pharmacist before starting diclofenac/misoprostol.
– anti-platelet drugs – cilostazol, clopidogrel
– oral bisphosphonates – alendronate
– “blood thinners” – enoxaparin, heparin, warfarin
– corticosteroids – prednisone, cyclosporine, desmopressin, digoxin
– high blood pressure drugs – ACE inhibitors such as captopril, angiotensin receptor blockers such as loartan, and beta-blockers such as metoprolol, lithium, methotrexate, pemetrexed, probenecid
– SSRI antidepressants (e.g., fluoxetine, sertraline), “water pills” – diuretics such as furosemide, hydrochlorothiazide, triamterene
– pain/fever drugs – NSAIDs such as aspirin, celecoxib, ibuprofen. These drugs are similar to this medication, so taking one of these drugs while also taking this medication may increase your risk of side effects
*******This document does not contain all possible interactions.
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My 2 cents:
I was prescribed these for probably 15 years. I experienced many of the symptoms above yet the doctor never considered them being a side effect from the drugs they were prescribing. They then went on to give me more drugs for the symptoms I was having and send me to specialists for this and that, added more diagnoses and more prescriptions to the mix. Hmmm??? Beside the added expense to our health care. Believe me too, when you involve more doctors you open yourself up to a power struggle of who is right with what diagnoses and then also the ego of the doctor whom is always right. To be honest, it is hard to find doctors who agree with one another.
Did you read that this is not a complete list of possible side effect? The list just goes on and on. This is because the reports just keep coming in from people so you should keep updated and report your side effects! If you experienced heavy vaginal bleeding they would probably send you to a gynecologist and not even consider your muscle relaxant. Muscle weakness or fatigue you might have a touch of the flu. Abdominal pain, nausea or vomitting probably the same thing or send you for an ultra sound to check your gallbladder. My point here is that one drug can cause so many problems, offer so little cure and it’s side effects or adverse reactions can be masked as disease itself.